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PtokaX new settings window
« on: July 01, 2007, 05:38:44 am »
Next PtokaX version will have new settings manager, and with this come major change in gui where settings will have own window. How design of this new window looks now is on pictures below.
Now it is only static design and is easy to change things in it. I am sure that is not perfect and i want from you, from PtokaX users comments, ideas and suggestions for this new settings window.

http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/1%20-%20General.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/2%20-%20MOTD.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/3%20-%20Bots.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/4%20-%20More general.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/6%20-%20Ban message.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/7%20-%20Advanced.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/8%20-%20MyINFO Processing.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/9%20-%20More advanced.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/10%20-%20Rules.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/11%20-%20More rules.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/12%20-%20Deflood.png
http://www.czdc.org/PtokaX/images/13%20-%20More Deflood.png
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 08:28:49 am »
Looks really cool.

I think adding Profile manager under Advanced would be a good idea.
And keep the layout of it as it is.
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 11:10:05 am »
Uhm... where is the script editor? :)

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 04:37:51 pm »
Hey Looks gr8 PPK
Thanking You,

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 05:41:43 pm »
where is the script editor? :)
On same place as before...

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 05:47:26 pm »
Looks great so far  :D
Nice work PPK

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 07:32:36 pm »
Nice work PPK   :o :o
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 08:25:25 pm »
Good work PPK  :D
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2007, 05:30:57 am »
Great work, I definitely like the direction these screens show. Exciting changes on the horizon for PtokaX.

I have a few (or more than a few) ideas, some hopefully are good, some may be bad. Of course, better to say them now than be sorry when everything is in place. Some of this is of the same spirit to clean things up and possibly increase usability, user friendliness, and functionality, even if it deviates a little from the topic.


A general note and a large part of my ideas: I think it'd be better to make some branches more specific, leaving space for later additions, rather than squeeze a lot into each. (This also benefits new users by making things easier to find)

So from the top working downwards.

1. Is the MotD branch necessary, really? I've wondered before about why the MotD is still in the GUI (maybe MotD path, Send as private, Disable) since it's just another text file. (While I'm at it.. why keep it in \cfg and not \texts?) Maybe something like a file manager would be good to have separate from settings for things such as texts, config, and at a stretch (they do fall under the file catagory..) scripts...

Some things which would be included in the proposed File Manager would be:
   For Texts:
      For text files: Enable, open texts folder, reload text files, send as private.
      For MotD file: Enable, Select Path box, open file (with associated program), reload button, send as private.
   For Configuration:
      Open cfg folder, save settings, reload ClientTags.xml (if/when possible), and possibly backup options.
   For Scripts:
      (No Script editor) Open scripts folder, restart scripts, memory usage per script.
      Then a list with scripts just like current PX (with up/down stacking buttons at top and a on/off box for each), but with a new context menu per script:
         Open script(with associated program or open with...), restart script, check syntax.
         
2. Make General-->Redirect settings then add Hubowner e-mail to the space leftover in the General #2 ("More General") branch.

3. Even though there's a limit to how many prefixes you can put in the box saying "Limit 5" next to it would be informative. (might be good for other strings, such as the ones with 64 char limits, for the sake of explicitness)

4. Minor note, MyINFO processing might deserve its own branch, if only due to its importance. (not really much of a reason)

5. Rules looks fine if only a bit crowded (Maybe description/tag checking separate) Adding more branches if/when other options come along later would work fine here.

6. With deflood just switch the MyINFOs from the first branch with Max PMs to user per minute (Chat and PM in one branch, MyINFO and protocol commands along with the misc deflood.

Hope this input helps. I know some of MotD/File manager suggestions require changes that aren't exclusive to the GUI/Settings manager, but hopefully they make sense :P

Keep up the good work.

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2007, 07:56:04 am »
Thx for ideas. Pictures updated. I am looking for better names for settings pages ::) And question is, merge or not merge Another general with More general ???

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2007, 12:25:04 pm »
You should merge the two general pages IMO. As for names, I'm going to think, I promise. ;)

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 01:07:23 pm »
Where is the admin chat?
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 01:46:00 pm »
Looks much better!

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 09:49:45 pm »
Picture for More General updated, it was merged with Another general from previous design.
Where is the admin chat?
On same place as before...

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2007, 11:03:03 pm »
Instead of "General" you also can say "Main" or for "More General" you can say "General" !!
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2007, 12:38:38 pm »
OK, nice work again.

When will be relisead?
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2007, 01:34:03 pm »
OK, nice work again.

When will be relisead?


Probably when its finished  ;D
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2007, 02:40:15 pm »
Ok  ;)
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2007, 08:11:12 pm »
Will this new GUI be compatible with Windows themes?

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2007, 11:32:33 pm »
Will this new GUI be compatible with Windows themes?

And the point of that is ??
Sorry but i saw i hubsoft the other day with GUI colour options in the settings and i
still fail to understand why ...
To me that would be like adding somethin that can be scripting and would waste resources

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2007, 11:38:24 pm »
And the point of that is ??

Just asking, the old one does not like them much. I am not a GUI-fan at all (would be funny from a guy who administers console *NIX-systems).

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2007, 11:46:10 pm »
Didnt mean to sound rude when i said that m8     (been long day)

Can i ask where the start hub button is ?
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2007, 04:58:20 am »
Will this new GUI be compatible with Windows themes?
Yes, this new settings window is compatible. Screenshot are from XP with Sustenance Visual Style for Windows XP by KoL.
Can i ask where the start hub button is ?
On same place as before...
« Last Edit: July 04, 2007, 05:01:27 am by PPK »

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2007, 05:04:54 am »
Yes, this new settings window is compatible. Screenshot are from XP with Sustenance Visual Style for Windows XP by KoL.

Hehe, that's why I asked, the widget styles looked way familiar (my sister's computer has this theme too).

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2007, 12:23:09 pm »
Hello it’s me again.

Windows are nice and are better looking to; I say so for so good!!
Keep it up the nice work PPK looking forward to using it.
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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2007, 03:24:20 am »
Here's my suggestion for names/pages setup

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General Settings
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   | MOTD
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   | Default Bots
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   | Redirections ( move User limits to "Connection Rules" and Text files to  "Advanced Security" )
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   | Ban Handling

Advanced Settings
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   | MyINFO processing ( / $IN processing )
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   | Advanced Security ( move Description Tag to "MyINFO processing" )
   
Connection Rules ( try and see if both pages can be merged to one as they have the same topic )

General Deflood
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   | Limits

( try and see if 1 deflood page can hold mainchat/priv chat/login/connection limits while other page holds action settings )

Hope it's helpful  and goodluck  8) ;D

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PtokaX new settings window (lol)
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2007, 10:24:00 am »
I guess its very fashion to create skins for everything, M$ made one with vista for example, next step will be addition of emoticones and widgets???
This topic is boring as hell, ptokax doesn't need a change of appearance, we need new stuff...

PS: Work on the transparency of the windows too, it's realy important for everybody, vital in fact.

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2007, 02:33:18 pm »
Dude, if you think this topic is boring, don't talk in it

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Re: PtokaX new settings window (lol)
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2007, 04:31:25 pm »
ptokax doesn't need a change of appearance
Ok, i will make special version for you without changed apperance... i am sure that you don't complain about not working settings in old gui ;D

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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2007, 06:06:45 pm »
Settings and gui are 2 different things  :o , basicly we doesn't need a gui, the scripts are working perfectly without, why not ptokax  ::)
If you want I can create you a todo list with useful things, and this things are not only useful for me but for everybody but you seems to ignore them  ???



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Re: PtokaX
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2007, 06:11:39 pm »
basicly we doesn't need a gui
You don't need, but most users need it.

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2007, 06:23:20 pm »
I wouldn't mind having a look at that list, Stormbringer...

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2007, 06:52:34 pm »
Redirections ( move User limits to "Connection Rules" and Text files to  "Advanced Security" )
Text files have nothing to do with security.
try and see if both pages can be merged
They can't be merged :(
try and see if 1 deflood page can hold mainchat/priv chat/login/connection limits while other page holds action settings
I like more have them together, instead of split them to two pages.

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2007, 08:36:58 pm »
Stormbringer, please cut off on your trollism.

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Re: PtokaX new settings window
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2007, 12:05:52 am »
Snooze: nothing to do with a comment of a guy who make compilation of bot.

Bastya: not a troll, just a disapointed guy, no evolution in ptokax since so many releses now, the only good stuff who was done recently was the language pack except this nothing's new, people shut up there but many hub owners think exactly the same thing, but nobody complain because each time somebody open his mouth here all the ''team'' kill him
Just a little bit more and this forum will looks like the forum of strongdc++

 

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